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eh

2:35 AM

possessing without fronting is usually limited and temporary

...so I may not be possessing, just that Cat is really good at proxying

If you want to think that, sure

2:37 AM

it may be worthwhile to get into that weird proxy state and then you try jumping into the body fully

are you and cat able to switch?

After awhile, I generally feel tired after possession. I could have Cat proxy for me all night

2:37 AM

@srn absolutely not. We tried a few times though. (edited)

"doing all the thinking" is generally seen as switching, these days.

2:38 AM

arrrrrrrgh I need to finish that data analysis

To me it isn't, since switching is having the host leave the front

2:38 AM

my host can't leave the front

I would think that if the switch is successful, the host could go dormant and the Tulpa would not

Ye

2:40 AM

We've sort of gotten close before, whenever Apollo's fronting very strongly, Lyra fades a little. Hopefully in the future that will be increased into a full switch.

"fronting" is another word with a lot of definitions.

Generally it means someone who's present and paying attention to the outside world

2:42 AM

They can be controlling the body at the same time but it isn't required

I think of "fronting" as whoever's mind voice is the loudest, Cat's mind voice ends up relying on "micro thoughts" if I am fronting and have a solid grasp. (edited)

My host doesn't think at all when one of us is possessing, but she's still fronting as she's still present/aware as always

2:45 AM

just passively observing what we do

If I front heavily enough, it's like she's watching a movie. She loses immediate awareness of what's going on without realizing she's losing awareness... if that makes sense.

2:46 AM

...If she realizes she might be losing immediate awareness... she panics. That's why I don't like possession: the panicking is annoying.

Lyra doesn't lose any awareness, she just loses input

2:47 AM

but slowly but surely I think her awareness may ebb

2:47 AM

it used to be that whenever we fronted, if she tried to stop paying much attention then it would totally cripple us

2:47 AM

now we get on just fine when she does that

By "awareness" I mean Cat isn't able to think about what I'm doing or be able to report that she's in that state. If something triggers her attention however, she will snap back into a slightly more aware state and take control.

2:50 AM

Honestly, Cat is afraid of losing control. She is afraid of getting that "locked" feeling and then not being able to easily jump back into control.

2:52 AM

I would like to achieve possession via proxying. The whole ritual thing is confusing and I don't like it.

2:58 AM

...yikes, only 2 guides specifically labeled as possession guides...

2:58 AM

https://community.tulpa.info/thread-possession-possession-by-yuki

Possession by Yuki

Introduction Learning possession consists of two parts. The host has to let go of control of the body, after which the tulpa can take over. In this guide I'll discuss the basics behind possession for

2:59 AM

In my opinion, this is essentially a soft version of switching. This to me is different from how I understand posession

Possession was real simple for us. We were doing it before we found out about tulpas. We used puppeting symbolism to start with, imagining Cee pulling my limbs around with puppet strings. Then it became more about dissociation and it's effortless now.

Possessing doesn't take effort for us either. All it takes is 1) become active, 2) connect to body, and boom we're possessing in an instant

what do y'all usually do in long active forcing sessions

Heyyyy

7:18 AM

Someone design a tulpamancy pride flag.

give us some colors

Make it super obscure so 90% of people will go wut

why not grey and white and other brainy colors

7:30 AM

id throw something else in there but nothing significant comes to mind, unless we could somehow represent tulpamancy's origins/history with colors

well, uhh, something to represent Tibet, something to represent 4chan

7:31 AM

that's quite a flag

pony friendly buddhist flag

yeah, throw in the pony colors

eye hurting

7:37 AM

i messed up the blue cuz im high but thats 3 budddhist colors + the colors above the logo lol

7:37 AM

hmm

7:38 AM

I don't think it should just be stripes

7:38 AM

incorporate some version of the plural circles somehow

this is a neat idea. glad this took off

White flag with a T

7:46 AM

Except the T is rainnboooW

tulpamancy symbol sounds like a good thing to stamp in the middle

the "tulpamancy symbol" is just a random fancy T

7:49 AM

and there's more than one

i feel like buddhism is just part of the history and mlp is something some ppl wanna forget too plus the colors can be a bit grating together

7:50 AM

any idea on which is most prevalent?

7:52 AM

ya

7:52 AM

theres nothing central to us except the internet

that's because the concept was invented by 20th century theosophists based off of the tibetan buddhist sprul-pa concept

7:53 AM

some differences exist as the concept was modified from its original version

id love a plurality flag

7:54 AM

like a stripe for each subset

7:55 AM

or just seems easier to come up with stuff for

7:57 AM

Who wants to forget MLP?

7:57 AM

We want to forget 4-chan exists.

is dat a plural flag GWfroggyPoggers

It's a variant.

8:00 AM

so an Australia type thing?

I thought this was a Tulpa.info server, not a Tumblr one

This wasn't the right channel for this conversation

Interesting convo tho

6:03 PM

I'm curious how much the two actually overlap

woah

?

plural pride symbol?

2:58 AM

[I like that one]

nobody would know what the heck it means lol

2:58 AM

why not just say "plural pride" on the shirt

2:59 AM

nope

I don't think plural pride is... necessary?

same tbh

For actual plural communities I can see it having a place, but not in regards to tulpamancy.

It's a pretty personal thing. Maybe I'd reconsider if it got even remotely mainstream.

I hate the word "plural" (edited)

I don't ever see that happening, though. And for now, I'm content to keep the fact that I'm in this community within this community.

3:01 AM

Why?

3:02 AM

It gets the message across. Recall the discussion from a few weeks ago about how someone didn't like the word "forcing" and others like it.

3:02 AM

Words have meaning because we assign it.

[Well I want to show people myself and how I am plural sooo]

Suppose it's more of a personal thing since back in the day there wasn't a lot of usage of the word "plural" when it came to tulpas and when we showed up against it was everywhere

3:02 AM

Bitter old men lol

[Actually I think that symbol works wonderfully just need to choose a text now and order a custom t-shirt]

3:28 AM

[There, that can be put at your nearest custom t-shirt maker with whatever text you want]